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[tj_rowe]

A discussion of this post about what men could be doing to reduce rape culture ended up with the guy I was talking to changing his facebook status to 'Hey guys! Stop raping people! Seriously! NOT COOL!'

...based on the assertion that the kind of guy who is likely to be a problem is also the kind of guy that is more likely to listen to another guy (as opposed to woman) telling them off about it.

PS. Awesome post, lots of stories in the comments.

Comments

[frankablu.livejournal.com]

You missed the 'l' off the end of the link.

[tamerterra.livejournal.com]

Fixed!

[xaviera-x.livejournal.com]

I wrote a comment on Facebook, but my computer eated it :(
I thought the comment you linked to was very interesting, and that the 'list of rules for men' is a very appropriate and effective response to the damn 'list of rules for women'.
What I hate most about that list is the "Don't walk home alone! Walk home alone with a man!" I can't quote the statistic, but a huge proportion of rapes are committed by someone the victim already knows. Quite possibly someone she would ask to walk her home so a Rapisttm won't jump of an alley and get her. That 'safety rule' does nothing but perpetuate the idea that rapists are strangers in alleyways. There are no words for just how helpful this isn't.
. . .
I may have just gone off on one.

[tamerterra.livejournal.com]

I think this is the kind of topic where going off on one is the majority response. And yes, agreed. Elsewhere in the comments someone mentioned that when their uni did a campaign like that, what happened was that lads would walk women home... and then expect to be 'rewarded' with sex. *facepalm*

I think the one time that I walked home from town without Steve or Jess was the time that the lad I was walking with tried to stick his tongue down my throat. So.

[tamerterra.livejournal.com]

Actually, I fail. It was in the same place in the comments.

[xaviera-x.livejournal.com]

Urgh. I'm lucky enough that that hasn't happened to me. Although reading all this has made me realise that (when I used to actually go outside) I walked on my own quite a lot, but never ever let anyone 'walk me home' just to be safe. I'm not sure if that's because I'm less afraid of Rapiststm in dark alleys than I should be, or because I'm more afraid of nice normal-looking guys.

[tamerterra.livejournal.com]

I tend to get walked places when there's someone going to the same place - in the case above, we were going from the same pub to campus. The time when me and Jess (when we lived in the same direction) walked each other back was when the lads told us that they were intending on getting plastered. (And that was also the time that we got followed from just after the Lawrence St. church to the Retreat and ended up going the long way around and hiding in New Vanbrugh with F for a while. The person following turned off at the Retreat, but until then they'd been keeping pace with us. It was freaky.)

I remember once when I used to have a torch attatched to my belt, and got asked to go with someone into the woods to look for something. He looked rather shocked when I said no. (IIRC, I was still a first year.)

[phase-meister.livejournal.com]

Incredible post.

The comments are very interesting. And that quote - too true. Of course that kind of guy would definitely be more inclined to listen to another man, as he'd probably respect him more than he would a woman...